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Postby jjones » Tue Feb 04, 2025 1:25 am

Say I want to make a StarTrek alien or something. Here are the steps I took. What am I doing wrong? What step is missing?

Using Blender 2.8.3.

Import a human from MakeHuman

human_imported.png


Mark as Human in MakeClothes

human_marked_human.png


Use Sculpt mode in Blender and make a change with the Elastic Deform tool

sculpt_mode_minor_change.png


Create/Save Target

save-target.png


Put target in ~/Documents/MakeHuman/v1py3/data/custom

Refresh targets folder in Makehuman, new target has no effect.

target-no-effect.png


I got this to work once, but now I can't for the life of me figure out how I did it.

I should mention this output produced by Blender. The Errors shown appear during sculpting, but not sure if they are the cause of the problem or what.

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Info: Selected object marked as human, mesh type is hm08

ERROR (bke.modifier): /Users/blender/git/blender-v283/blender.git/source/blender/blenkernel/intern/modifier.c:409 modifier_setError: Sculpt: Hide, Mask and optimized display disabled
ERROR (bke.modifier): /Users/blender/git/blender-v283/blender.git/source/blender/blenkernel/intern/modifier.c:409 modifier_setError: Sculpt: Hide, Mask and optimized display disabled
... hundreds more of same error



Thank you for any and all clues!
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Re: MakeTarget questions

Postby jjones » Tue Feb 04, 2025 1:46 am

Decided to try again with Blender 4.3, had a little more luck, but an asymetrical result

Note that during the sculpt mode, I used the Mirror Modifier so that the sculpting is symmetric

sculpt2.png


Then I saved the target as "zzz6.target"

I closed and reopened MakeHuman and refreshed the target directory.

This time, the target is somewhat functional, but it is asymetrical?

assymetrical_starget.png


Note that I tried pressing the Symmetrize buttons before saving to no avail

symmetrize.png


Thank you for any advice
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Re: MakeTarget questions

Postby tomcat » Tue Feb 04, 2025 2:27 am

jjones wrote:Note that during the sculpt mode, I used the Mirror Modifier so that the sculpting is symmetric

You probably need to apply the modifier before the target impor.
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Re: MakeTarget questions

Postby jjones » Tue Feb 04, 2025 2:31 am

Just to be thorough, I tried again using Blender 4.2.4.

And the same procedure as for Blender 4.3 (above)

This time the target doesn't work, similar to the 2.8.3 result.

4.2.4-target.png


I should mention that the generated target file is basically empty.

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 cat zzz8.target
# This is a target file for MakeHuman
#
# It was written by the MakeTarget submodule of MPFB
#
# For more information, see MakeHuman's home page at http://www.makehumancommunity.org
#
# basemesh hm08

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Re: MakeTarget questions

Postby jjones » Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:03 am

tomcat wrote:
jjones wrote:Note that during the sculpt mode, I used the Mirror Modifier so that the sculpting is symmetric

You probably need to apply the modifier before the target impor.


Thank you!

Unfortunately when I try to apply the Mirror modifier, it says:

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Modifer cannot be applied to a mesh with shape keys


Now I'm trying to figure that out
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Re: MakeTarget questions

Postby tomcat » Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:34 am

jjones wrote:Unfortunately when I try to apply the Mirror modifier, it says:

Code: Select all
Modifer cannot be applied to a mesh with shape keys


Now I'm trying to figure that out


When you
Import a human from MakeHuman

the resulting file may contain “shape keys”. You need to delete them and then you can apply the modifier. If I remember the process correctly, of course.

Can you share your .blend file?
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Re: MakeTarget questions

Postby jjones » Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:10 am

Thank you!

I see now, when you first create a Target, that's when the shape keys are created.

So, if I apply the Mirror modifier before I create the Target for the first time, it will apply wth no error.

After I create the Target and save it, the Shape Keys appear. So that's where they come from.

However, the resultant target is blank. Tried with both 4.2.4 and 4.3.

Took me a while to find them, here is where the shape keys live:
shapekeys.png
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Re: MakeTarget questions

Postby jjones » Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:20 am

Here is the Blend file.

I'm using MPFBv2.0-b2 and Blender 4.2.4

I imported the human using MPFB->New Human -> From MakeHuman -> Import Human

I added the Mirror Modifer

Sculpted a few bits

Applied the Mirror Modifier

So this is the Blend file without shape keys, before trying to create a target (which will create the pesky shape keys).

I also tried using this blend file in 4.3 to create a target, and it just winds up with an empty target...



zzzH.blend
(7.14 MiB) Downloaded 222 times


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Re: MakeTarget questions

Postby jjones » Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:41 am

By the way, if you think I should use a different version of either Blender or MakeTarget/MPFB, I'd be happy to. I'm not beholden to any particular version really.
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Re: MakeTarget questions

Postby tomcat » Tue Feb 04, 2025 6:04 am

jjones wrote:I also tried using this blend file in 4.3 to create a target, and it just winds up with an empty target...

Yeah, it's unclear and needs to look into it.
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