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Re: Suggest a pose

Postby joepal » Fri Aug 14, 2015 4:58 pm

grinsegold wrote:So i'll have to wait until 1.1.0 is out. Do the blendertools need to be replaced, too? The mhx2? And how likely is it that i will lose my assets again in two more years?
Sadly, since i'm using Linux, at least with its package-intallation, i can't have two separate versions of MH running. So hopefully i can catch up soon and make some progress.


It's very easy to run a developer version in parallel with the packaged one on linux. If you already have the package installed, you probably already have all the dependencies installed.

Not knowing which linux you have, but for example ubuntu:

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apt-get install mercurial
hg clone https://bitbucket.org/MakeHuman/makehuman
cd makehuman/makehuman
python download-assets.py
python makehuman.py


Voila, up to date version of MH without having touched the packaged version. Here with the benefit that you also have access to all the raw targets, clothes etc.

But yes, you will most likely want to update blendertools to.

I find it unlikely the base mesh will change again soon, but there will most likely always be some incompatibilities between versions.
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Re: Suggest a pose

Postby grinsegold » Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:42 pm

Not knowing which linux you have, but for example ubuntu:

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apt-get install mercurial
hg clone https://bitbucket.org/MakeHuman/makehuman
cd makehuman/makehuman
python download-assets.py
python makehuman.py


Voila, up to date version of MH without having touched the packaged version. Here with the benefit that you also have access to all the raw targets, clothes etc.

But yes, you will most likely want to update blendertools to.


Thanks for that information. I use linux mint (17). Could you please explane what the code does? I hate using the terminal, so i'm not very good at it. I still have some questions:
-will i have to do a "sudo" in front of the "apt-get"?
-do i write each line separately and then enter, or do i have to paste the hole text and then enter?
-will the unstable run without a command line? In other words: will i find it in my graphics software tab?
-where can i find an update for blendertools?

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Suggest a pose

Postby joepal » Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:22 pm

You need sudo before the apt-get.

The commands are run one by one with hitting enter between them.

This will not create any icons in your menus. But you should be able to use your standard file manager to navigate to the directory "makehuman" which is created by the commands and double-click the "makehuman.py" file.

Blendertools is downloaded as a part of this, it will be available as a subdirectory in the created dir.

You might want to modify the listed commands a bit if you plan to run this in your home directory (see my suggestion below). Otherwise the makehuman program and your makehuman saved files directory will be mixed together.

For mint, I think this sequence of commands might be applicable:

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cd ~
sudo apt-get install mercurial python python-numpy python-opengl python-qt4 python-qt4-gl
hg clone https://bitbucket.org/MakeHuman/makehuman makehuman-unstable
cd makehuman-unstable/makehuman
python download-assets.py


(but I have no mint installation to test on, so it's best guess)

You only need to do this once. After having done it, navigate to "makehuman-unstable/makehuman" in your home dir and double-click "makehuman.py" to start the program.
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Re: Suggest a pose

Postby loki1950 » Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:34 pm

I run Mint and there are no issues at all their is a GUI for mercurial called Tortoise Workbench called TortoiseHg in the repos browse Mint's Software Manager it's basically the same as the Windows version.

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Re: Suggest a pose

Postby grinsegold » Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:54 pm

loki1950 wrote:I run Mint and there are no issues at all their is a GUI for mercurial called Tortoise Workbench called TortoiseHg in the repos browse Mint's Software Manager it's basically the same as the Windows version.

Enjoy the Choice :)


I followed Joel's instructions and i got a newly created "makehuman-unstable" folder in my superuser's home directory. Most of the time i use my pc as guest with less privileges, for safety reasons, and i am able to open mh-unstable from there. But i have no assets, neither as root nor as guest. When i typed in
python download-assets.py,
i got the error message:
python: can't open file 'download-assets.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory

Can someone tell me what mercurial is good for? I installed tortoisehg, but the main window is blanc and the software is not selfexplanatory.
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Re: Suggest a pose

Postby loki1950 » Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:35 pm

There is an article on using TortoiseHg on bitbuckets site IIRC about 'download-assets.py' using the file browser just double-click on it pick run in a terminal in the pop up(so you can see what's going on)

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Re: Suggest a pose

Postby grinsegold » Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:23 pm

It's great to have such a strong and helpful community. Unluckily you have to consider me as being your grandma from overseas. Example: i had to look up what "IIRC" could mean. My guess is you ment "if i recall correctly" rather than "International Integrated Reporting Committee (IIRC)". After i understood that you want me to look at bitbucket i did just that. But unfortunately i couldn't find articles there. I watched some vids on youtube and got an idea of the purpose of HG. But your aged grandma hasn't got the time to learn all these things, because she has so wide interests. Maybe..., no, SURELY one day unstable will get stable, and then i will be able to benefit from it. Besides, i have an unstable version as .deb-file on my root desktop. I always can uninstall v1.0.2 and install v1.1.0 from there without loosing the assets (although i haven't tested it after all this confusion, but i'm positive).

Last question: In the unstable folder there are the blender tools. If i decide to use the unstable version, do i just use these tools to point onto in the blender user preferences, so i have the right import/export behavior?
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Re: Suggest a pose

Postby loki1950 » Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:37 pm

Just as much a grandma the number in my username is my birth year :o but I've been programming since 1968 so there's lots that I've forgotten for the bitbucket tortoiseHg article http://tortoisehg.bitbucket.org/ I have been running the unstable version since the google codes days when the repo was svn not Hg on both Windows/Linux use TortoiseHG to do my initial clone just copy/paste the repo URL into TortoiseHG the dialog box.Since I am registered at bitbucket I use SSH for updates.

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Re: Suggest a pose

Postby joepal » Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:11 pm

grinsegold wrote:python download-assets.py


That should have been an underscore: python download_assets.py

Mercurial is a source code revision management system. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercurial
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Re: Suggest a pose

Postby grinsegold » Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:52 pm

joepal wrote:That should have been an underscore: python download_assets.py


That did the trick. Yeah! See me making a deep bow, Joel. How pretty the faked eyebrows of the special male skin look at the default female character (with long lashes)! Thanks for your help. Have a nice weekend.
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