Release Candidate 11x

[learning]

Can you just mark makehuman and makehuman-unstable as conflicting in your ppa?

[gaiha]

Can you just mark makehuman and makehuman-unstable as conflicting in your ppa?

Because this recent release candidate and the unstabe nightly build share the same files... this causes a conflict when installing the RC1. in order to resolve this (at this time) the unstable nightly build must be un-installed/removed prior to installing the Release Candidate. AS was noted by "joepal" - this can be updated in a second release candidate (if it is made) otherwise, it will wait until the final build.

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[joepal]

Can you just mark makehuman and makehuman-unstable as conflicting in your ppa?

Yes, the PPA owner can do this. And I have done so in the build source, but I haven't yet built an updated PPA, so the change hasn't propagated to launchpad yet.

[learning]

Aren't you the owner of the PPA?

[joepal]

Aren't you the owner of the PPA?

Yes. But it isn't as if it's just of a push of a button and then it's done. There are quite a lot of manual steps in between. And I don't think this glitch is big enough to warrant the effort. So I'll wait with pushing a new version until there's something bigger to fix.

[FairyTail]

On Ubuntu trusty, looking at the differences between 1.10~rc2 and an up-to-date install from mercurial, using the same config files, when starting the ppa build there is a warning

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Incompatible MakeHuman settings (version 1.2.0) detected (expected 1.1.0). Loading default settings.

Using the mercurial version

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makehuman -v
MakeHuman Copyright (C) 2001-2015 http://www.makehuman.org
This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions. For details use the option --license

NO VERSION file detected, retrieving revision info from HG
Detected HG revision: r2020 (c400adbeefe1)
1.2.0 (r2020 c400adbeefe1) [hg parents command]


So it looks like the mercurial version is incorrect.

The mercurial version also gives many more options under the Utilities tab than the ppa build; specifically it would be nice to have "Skeleton Debug", because there appears to be several issues with the weights for the default rig.

To see the weight differences, start makehuman, choose the default rig, go to Utilities, Debug Skeleton, and compare, for example, upperleg01.L and upperleg01.R, or foot.L and foot.R. I would assume that the weights ought to be mirrored. A quick and dirty comparison of vertex counts in ./makehuman/data/rigs/default_weights.mhw show several differences:

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 "breast.L":447
 "breast.R":434
 "clavicle.L":665
 "clavicle.R":635
 "finger3-1.L":247
 "finger3-1.R":241
 "foot.L":842
 "foot.R":716
 "levator05.L":436
 "levator05.R":437
 "levator06.L":319
 "levator06.R":271
 "lowerarm01.L":544
 "lowerarm01.R":548
 "lowerleg01.L":956
 "lowerleg01.R":959
 "lowerleg02.L":674
 "lowerleg02.R":600
 "metacarpal2.L":205
 "metacarpal2.R":198
 "oculi01.L":292
 "oculi01.R":273
 "orbicularis03.L":265
 "orbicularis03.R":259
 "orbicularis04.L":287
 "orbicularis04.R":286
 "pelvis.L":958
 "pelvis.R":964
 "risorius03.L":467
 "risorius03.R":466
 "shoulder01.L":615
 "shoulder01.R":588
 "tongue05.L":99
 "tongue05.R":86
 "tongue07.L":109
 "tongue07.R":100
 "upperarm01.L":936
 "upperarm01.R":910
 "upperarm02.L":703
 "upperarm02.R":696
 "upperleg01.L":1197
 "upperleg01.R":1222
 "upperleg02.L":1083
 "upperleg02.R":1076
 "wrist.L":251
 "wrist.R":254


Finally, purely to avoid the huge download, it would be nice if makehuman-clothes was a "suggested" package and not a dependency.

[joepal]

Thanks for many helpful suggestions. I'll look at these for rc3.

For the first warning: Are you sure that's not because you had run 1.2.0 first and thus got a settings file in ~/makehuman with a 1.2.0 version stamp? If you temporarily rename ~/makehuman to ~/makehuman.bak and try the PPA again, do you get the same warning?

[joepal]

Concerning the weights: that's most likely #954 http://bugtracker.makehumancommunity.org/issues/954

This is still scheduled for fix for 1.1.0, but I don't know what the status is.

If you have suggestions, maybe you could add them in that bug report?

[FairyTail]

For the first warning: Are you sure that's not because you had run 1.2.0 first and thus got a settings file in ~/makehuman with a 1.2.0 version stamp? If you temporarily rename ~/makehuman to ~/makehuman.bak and try the PPA again, do you get the same warning?

Moving ~/makehuman out of the way, the mercurial makehuman -v returns 1.2.0 (r2020 c400adbeefe1) [hg parents command]

The ppa build makehuman -v returns data/VERSION file detected using value from version file: 2019:55f4570dc8ca 1.1.0

The ppa build is fine, but the difference in version numbers between the mercurial source and the ppa build means that there will be incompatibility issues with some saved files. IIRC, I had to edit some version numbers manually to open v1.1 files using makehuman from the mercurial source.

[joepal]

For the first warning: Are you sure that's not because you had run 1.2.0 first and thus got a settings file in ~/makehuman with a 1.2.0 version stamp? If you temporarily rename ~/makehuman to ~/makehuman.bak and try the PPA again, do you get the same warning?

Moving ~/makehuman out of the way, the mercurial makehuman -v returns 1.2.0 (r2020 c400adbeefe1) [hg parents command]

Just checking... You *are* running stable branch here? I.e, you cloned and then did "hg update -C stable"? Cause 1.1 is now "stable" while "default" is 1.2.