MTKnife wrote:learning wrote:I've already said in no uncertain terms that I don't follow your copyrast religion, please stop trying to force it on me and don't ever preach it to me again. I'm well aware that this cult grew to the position of state religion in certain countries and spreads censorship and oppression to the parts of the internet it manages to control. If you live in one of such countries, I feel bad for you but there's little I can do to help. Luckily, this forum is based in Sweden so it's less censored. And really, if it was up to me, I'd choose moving the forum over censoring its contents in any circumstances.
Just to be clear here, copyright isn't a "religion" for me--it's not a matter of whether or not I agree with copyright laws, but of the fact that they're laws, and the nature of the rule of law (if I do have a religion, that's the one I subscribe to) is that you follow the laws whether you agree with them or not. I can't change your views on that, but I'd rather you not hurl insults against other people who are merely trying to adhere to principle.
Yeah, figures that's your religion. Here's mine: Laws are make by people for people and should have rights and interests of people in mind. Every person is born with a set of inalienable rights and freedoms — freedom of speech, freedom of expression (that includes creating, sharing and modifying any information with no restriction), freedom of belief, freedom to own and use property etc. Those are the bases of society, and the only reason for laws and their enforcers to exist at all is guaranteeing and protecting those rights. If instead laws and governments restrict those freedoms, as is the case with copyrast legislation, they are not legitimate and should be considered null and void. That has nothing to do with "liking" or "disliking" a particular law, only with whether or not it contradicts the basic human rights. And if they do, breaking such laws is not only acceptable, it is the only morally acceptable course of action. You of all people should understand this, after all you live in a country where not so long ago people were required by law to do… horrible, horrible things. (In my country it was, if anything, even worse). What would you say if all people back then were like "a law is a law, you should follow it whether you like it or not"? I'd say we are all lucky many weren't.
I am sorry if you found anything I've said insulting, I honestly didn't mean it. I know I'm opinionated and a bit of a hothead, always been, always will be, so at times I say things that may come out as rash. But hurling insults was never my intention. In fact, now that we know that we both have our beliefs that are somewhat incompatible, I'm ready to back off rather than starting a flame war.