Proxies missing after "download_assets.py"

[wolgade]

I just got another "improvement" by running download_assets.py: Female textures got also censored. If you made a backup of the old topologies, go and make a backup of the skin textures, too. This is getting ridiculous. Mercurial hasn't seen any commits for five weeks, but someone found the time to destroy Manuel's artwork. First things first?

Please, tell me that I'm wrong, but I get the impression that I'm watching a dying project. It has become terribly quiet here and on bugtracker. The last activities were just acts of destruction.

[Aranuvir]

As far as I understood the posts that where made about the issue, the decision to censor the project was made by the owner himself. That's a regrettable decision, we need to accept. And the lack of development progress might be due to vacation time and the few amount of developers.

[wolgade]

As far as I understood the posts that where made about the issue, the decision to censor the project was made by the owner himself.

I know. Manuel made this decission after he "got tired of a bunch of childish discussions" (Quote: joepal). So the textures were most probably edited by himself. I still can't believe that he had much fun destroying his own artwork. I really hope this wasn't his last action taken for this project.

the lack of development progress might be due to vacation time and the few amount of developers.

I really hope you're right. It might be coincidence that Manuel's actitivity ended at the same time the proxies were removed, but I don't think so.

[joepal]

If you take the whole community in account, you will also see that vastly more assets have been added than removed. For example we now have one and a half screen pages worth of user contributed clothes.

It is indeed Manuel who is removing these things. Why that is, is something you'll have to ask him.

As I have stated before, I don't have any influence over the distro's asset repository, and I won't claim to have an official say in what happens there. However, my guess (and it really is a guess) is that the long term goal is to slim down the core distro in order to have fewer things to support.

I don't think anyone, Manuel included, is against for example proxies with genitals per se. Everyone involved would happily applaud user maintained versions in the contribution repos.

It is beyond me what was wrong with the skins in particular though.

[Grimmycakes]

Does anybody have a download link with the genitals? I really don't think they should have been removed. Just tried downloading the nightly build and deleted the old one. So now I've got no genital proxies

[wolgade]

Does anybody have a download link with the genitals?

Seems like there's no download link. If you're problem still exists, send me a PM.

[elfboi]

When I was a child, you could buy anatomically correct dolls everywhere. Then again, that was in the late 1970s and early 1980s, before the sexual counter-revolution.

[Déesse]

Can someone help me please to understand the main idea of the discussion in this and other threads? Maybe I have a lack of fantasy? I can't find out why it should be necessary to have that superdetailled genitals with several features. Okay, you might want to produce illustrations for sciencebooks. Something else? I think there are better ways.

To be honest: If I were one of the developers, it would be very frustrating for me to see my work becoming reduced to pornographic purposes. Especially as long as the focus could be much better on contentcreation. Once again: please explain what I don't find out by myself.

What Makehuman is and can be is presented with wonderful results in the monthly contest and the gallery.

[learning]

Now this really sucks. I was really hoping MH community would be beyond this sexophobe hysteria, self-censorship and self-vandalism that seems to go on in the Western world. It's so stupid words fail me. Would at least anyone tell me how to get the proxies back?

[learning]

Can someone help me please to understand the main idea of the discussion in this and other threads? Maybe I have a lack of fantasy? I can't find out why it should be necessary to have that superdetailled genitals with several features. Okay, you might want to produce illustrations for sciencebooks. Something else? I think there are better ways.

To be honest: If I were one of the developers, it would be very frustrating for me to see my work becoming reduced to pornographic purposes. Especially as long as the focus could be much better on contentcreation. Once again: please explain what I don't find out by myself.

What Makehuman is and can be is presented with wonderful results in the monthly contest and the gallery.

If I were to answer this fully, I'd have to start a giant political flame war. I'd rather not. Just a few short statements: MH is about creating detailed and realistic human models. Real humans have genitals. Even those who don't like this fact still have them. What those realistic human models are used for later is nobody's business. And besides, even if they will indeed be used for pornography, pornography is a legitimate form of art. It's not in any way "lower" than any other art simply by the fact that it contains human genitalia and/or sexual activities. One of the best results in history of MH monthly contests in my opinion, "Liberty vs. Justice" by grinsegold, can be easily classified as pornography by a shallow and closed mind, but it is also a piece of art with deep message and really well done too.