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forehead wrinkles

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 2:15 am
by Joshea
Hi,
I'm looking for a forehead wrinkles target asset for the attached character. He's suppose to be around 70. I'll try and make one, if nothing is out there, over the next couple of days. :D

Re: forehead wrinkles

PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 2:06 pm
by joepal
I'm not necessarily saying that this is how it should be done, but an alternative approach would be using a normal map. The mesh density in the forehead might not be enough for believable wrinkles.

Re: forehead wrinkles

PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 1:22 am
by Joshea
I tried sculpting in the forehead wrinkles, however, rendering became a major problem. The modifier, multires, creates too many vertices. Slows down my mac mini way too much.

The answer to this point, put a hat on the character that covers the forehead. Thanks all anyway.

Re: forehead wrinkles

PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 8:23 am
by joepal
Normally, you'd only keep the multires until you've baked the normal map. Then it can be removed. See for example https://www.katsbits.com/tutorials/blen ... l-maps.php

Theoretically, you should be able to mask away all vertices except the relevant ones during this procedure.

(This said without knowing if the mac mini would be capable of this either)

Re: forehead wrinkles

PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 2:13 pm
by punkduck
Joshea wrote:I tried sculpting in the forehead wrinkles, however, rendering became a major problem. The modifier, multires, creates too many vertices. Slows down my mac mini way too much.

The answer to this point, put a hat on the character that covers the forehead. Thanks all anyway.


Here is another workflow: if you are already in Blender, also need the geometry for wrinkles and do not want a normalmap you can do the following:

just select the faces of the forehead in edit-mode, then select "mesh" "edges/subdivide" with e.g. a factor of 2. Then only the forehead is subdivided. The skin texture will not be destroyed, weights and groups will be copied so it should work while posing.
... now do your weight painting ... I did a quick test on one of my characters ... not very natural, I know. But it show that it works.

wrinkles.jpg


Btw.: This should also work on a Mac Mini. For posing etc. switch subdivision surface off in edit mode, if you use that. The first 34 pages of the "gallery/the daily life of models" were rendered on a small quad-core MAC Mini.

Re: forehead wrinkles

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 1:23 am
by Joshea
Hi,
I spent some, but not a lot, of time trying to get wrinkles on the forehead. I abandoned the forehead idea and used MH options available. Attached are two pics of the character I'm going with for now. He's supposed to be a short order Chinese cook that looks 'burnt out' (too many years doing the same thing for lousy money). I'll give him eyebrow expressions in the timeline.

Comments, good or bad, are welcome :D .

Re: forehead wrinkles

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 2:39 am
by loki1950
I like it :) and the crows feet at the eye corners looks like he's ready to pick up his dao and wack the dishwasher for using soap on his wok.

Enjoy the Choice :)

Re: forehead wrinkles

PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 4:07 pm
by RobBaer
Good character development. The skin tone looks great (at least on my screen). Wish you hadn't given up on the wrinkles. :?