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Intersex Proxy / Skin [NSFW - Nudity]

Postby Antiqua_Sphinge » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:52 pm

I'm a writer (speculative fiction) as well as a self-publisher so I'm learning to create human images for my book covers. I also realize I'm nowhere near being able to create a skin and associated proxy on my own.

I've searched the fora, so the question is: has anyone done an intersex (hermaphroditic) proxy and skin? I've got a storyline (several novels) featuring genetically engineered humans...

I'm looking for something realistic, as in not as exaggerated as the Japanese futanari from manga and hentai.

And yes, I tend to have clothed models on covers as many venues (Istore / Kobo) frown on nudes on a cover as someone's head might explode or something.
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Re: Intersex Proxy / Skin

Postby jujube » Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:13 pm

If you can't show genitalia on your covers, then the existing model, set to gender neutral (50% male/female) should do fine.
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Re: Intersex Proxy / Skin

Postby Antiqua_Sphinge » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:35 pm

Actually not quite accurate. What is underneath the clothes alters the appearance of the cover image.

As far as Amazon goes, they don't appear to care what's on a cover, just the Istore and Kobo.

jujube wrote:If you can't show genitalia on your covers, then the existing model, set to gender neutral (50% male/female) should do fine.
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Re: Intersex Proxy / Skin

Postby jujube » Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:51 am

So like crotch bulges under clothing? You should be able to do that using the existing pelvic/genital(?) volume slider; and there are two methods to increase the strength of an existing target:

a) download target (from the makehuman source code, if you have to) and make a copy. Apply both copies, or however many copies you want to achieve the desired strength.
b) download target and load in maketarget in blender. In the vertex groups tab any targets you load/create should be there, and you can alter the min/max setting to increase past 100% and exaggerate the target.

Then you can have both a crotch bulge and chest bulges on your clothing.

...unless what you're asking for is super skintight clothing that embraces every detail. Hmm.
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Re: Intersex Proxy / Skin

Postby Antiqua_Sphinge » Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:58 am

I'm a novice at both MH and Blender, so at best it would have my eyes rolling back in my head at this point. I also have to wait to get my 64-bit box back from a warranty repair, which won't happen until after I get an authorization number and pull the hard drive in order to send it in.

I tried a render on my old 32-bit backup computer, after almost an hour it was at 8% with an estimated 9 hours 42 minutes to go.

Sci-Fi novel covers often feature super skin-tight clothing, meaning if something is a bit off it shows.

The cover artist who did my last cover has won awards, but I notice details.

Consider part of the cover.
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Now consider an illustration he did for my dotters based on a physical description inside the book.
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The illustration is fairly close to the description and there are some important differences between the females depicted.

[The cover just squeaked by the censors at Kobo, and wasn't submitted for the Istore as I dislike doing Plain Brown Wrapper covers.]

Whether I'm hand crafting a sword for someone, rendering medical aid, or simply designing a book cover, I feel the details others overlook usually matter.

jujube wrote:So like crotch bulges under clothing? You should be able to do that using the existing pelvic/genital(?) volume slider; and there are two methods to increase the strength of an existing target:

a) download target (from the makehuman source code, if you have to) and make a copy. Apply both copies, or however many copies you want to achieve the desired strength.
b) download target and load in maketarget in blender. In the vertex groups tab any targets you load/create should be there, and you can alter the min/max setting to increase past 100% and exaggerate the target.

Then you can have both a crotch bulge and chest bulges on your clothing.

...unless what you're asking for is super skintight clothing that embraces every detail. Hmm.
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Re: Intersex Proxy / Skin

Postby Antiqua_Sphinge » Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:54 pm

After doing a couple web searches I get the feeling the idea of an intersex proxy / skin may not be taken as I had intended.

I am a writer who can't afford to pay for covers at this point. As I pointed out to jujube sci-fi book covers often feature clothing that hugs details, hence why I try to get things right from the start.

I don't do either porn or fetish erotica as there are plenty of people doing that already -- I also have no idea nor the desire to learn how to animate such.

If someone with the skill to do what I'm asking wants to verify that I am what I represent myself to be, PM me with an email address and I can send a link to my work as well as a free soft copy of a book I've written. My royalties for the last four years average US $5.625 per year after taxes and I really am not trying to make sales.

I just want to be able to do what I'm good at, which is weaving words that might help people see the human condition a bit differently. As a self-publisher making covers is part of the job even if it doesn't pay squat.
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Re: Intersex Proxy / Skin

Postby grinsegold » Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:30 am

I'll make it short: Modelling/texturing/rendering are skills that need time to grow. That's the way the cookie crumbles. I started learning blender because i wanted to make a certain animation film. I never did that clip, but i fell in love with blender...
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Re: Intersex Proxy / Skin

Postby Antiqua_Sphinge » Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:41 pm

grinsegold wrote:I'll make it short: Modelling/texturing/rendering are skills that need time to grow. That's the way the cookie crumbles. I started learning blender because i wanted to make a certain animation film. I never did that clip, but i fell in love with blender...


I understand how learning a new skill-set requires time, just as it requires a certain level of pre-existing innate ability in order to become really good with the new skill. I also learned to recognize my limits long ago.

I can perform a lot of very different functions well enough to be mistaken for someone who works in a particular profession. As an example I've been chastised for not having a fully stocked First Responder's Kit and under-dosing my "patient" by a doctor who assumed my level of background knowledge meant I had to be working in the medical field, which I don't. Knowing enough to keep someone from experiencing anaphylaxis no more makes me a doctor than knowing how to cook makes me a chef, though I've been accused of being both.

When I get my good computer back in about a month I hope to be able to learn to some simple things in Blender but I also know it's an art form I'll likely never master. I do hope to be able to craft simple yet effective book covers for my avocation, which is writing.
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Re: Intersex Proxy / Skin

Postby Mindfront » Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:03 pm

Hi!

I understand when wanting to be creative but got stuck in technicalities whole the time.

When I started learning Blender, I started with to advanced project and was about to give up until I find VscorpianC and other nice people that give their time to make Blender tutorials. What is of big importance is to learn step by step, one section at the time with great patience and the insight that one never will master Blender only scratch the surface even after several years but enough to get Blender to do almost what you want.
But then in the process creativity may suffer because some function not is understandable.

Someday in the (hopfully near) future I plan to create own designed sci-fi clothes for MakeHuman as I have some sci-fi scenes ideas but at the moment I am working on a more at the present scene, just for relaxation from ordinary life.

So far I only do what I have use for in a project but maybe I can be of little help to get you started with something. I am not an active MakeHuman forum user as I have little bit of a problem to express me in english, and I mostly only log in when having something to the "User contributed assets" but I can try to login more often if needed.
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Re: Intersex Proxy / Skin

Postby Antiqua_Sphinge » Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:19 pm

Mindfront wrote:Hi!

I understand when wanting to be creative but got stuck in technicalities whole the time.

When I started learning Blender, I started with to advanced project and was about to give up until I find VscorpianC and other nice people that give their time to make Blender tutorials. What is of big importance is to learn step by step, one section at the time with great patience and the insight that one never will master Blender only scratch the surface even after several years but enough to get Blender to do almost what you want.
But then in the process creativity may suffer because some function not is understandable.

Someday in the (hopfully near) future I plan to create own designed sci-fi clothes for MakeHuman as I have some sci-fi scenes ideas but at the moment I am working on a more at the present scene, just for relaxation from ordinary life.

So far I only do what I have use for in a project but maybe I can be of little help to get you started with something. I am not an active MakeHuman forum user as I have little bit of a problem to express me in english, and I mostly only log in when having something to the "User contributed assets" but I can try to login more often if needed.


Hello and Greetings from the Texas Hill Country where it's currently hot and the mountain lions refuse to play during the day.

I understand getting stuck in technicalities while being creative -- it happens with my writing all the time. I've got gigabytes of research saved to a backup drive.

Don't worry about your English, I've done interpretor duty (English / Spanish) and catch a bit from German and Swedish when I hear it.

Perhaps I should restate my problem. I'm a writer and I am not very good with graphic arts. I have no real background in visual art and I'm not likely to master creating images. I also have a few dozen written works I need to finish.

I've seen some of what VscorpionC has done as tutorials. If I could get several days without interruptions they might possibly help. Unfortunately most days I'm doing good to get five minutes to myself. My duties take precedence over what I would like to get done.

I do better with document type instruction that details each and every step in a process. This would be the type document (like a Dash One) put together to allow someone with no prior working knowledge of a system or piece of equipment to perform a function.

When I get my decent computer back, I can go back to the instruction punkduck has provided and start learning some basic stuff. Hopefully I'll be able to get my models feet on the floor rather than above the floor or in it. My backup computer takes over nine hours just to render a simple test image and is in no way suitable to get anything major done with graphics.

For now it looks like I'll have to stick with what I can do.
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